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Louise inserted her card, selected English, and requested a cash withdrawal. The ATM made satisfying mechanical noises, then a message appeared on the screen. “We apologize,” it said. “Your bank has requested that we retain your card.” The screen went blank. No cash. No card. We have a month to go in France.
Some background is required: We each have two bank accounts, personal and joint. We use the joint account to pay family expenses. We transfer money into that account from our personal accounts when it’s needed. The personal accounts are used for, well, personal stuff: motorcycles for me, clothes (and shoes!) for her. We monitor our various accounts online, to verify that nothing nefarious is going on.
Louise does her personal banking with Umpqua Bank. I use Key Bank for that, a holdover from years past. Umpqua provides our joint account.
Soon after we arrived in France, a notification appeared when we logged on to our joint account. “Watch for it! A new and improved online banking experience, coming soon to Umpqua Bank.” It’s not an uncommon message: websites (and apps) are being refreshed all the time.
A few weeks later, when I tried to log on to Umpqua using my tablet, a screen appeared. “Welcome to Umpqua Bank’s new and improved banking experience,” it said. “You will need to change your password, and to do that we will send a text message to your phone containing an access key. Check your messages and use that key to continue. If you’re unable to receive text messages, call us.” An 800 number was available.
We’re in backwater France. There is no cell phone coverage here. No texts; no phone calls. My tablet was locked out.
No problem. I brought out my computer, which continued to display the old web page, and all was well. I did my business, sent an email to Umpqua, telling them that the new and improved banking experience wasn’t new and improved for those of us without phones in backwater France. Could they help?
There was no reply.
A few days after that, the new and improved banking experience appeared on the computer’s web page, again describing the password-change, text-message procedure. I sent another email.
There was no reply.
We couldn’t access our account online. What was the balance? Would it cover the rent? Would we be homeless? Would we starve?
In desperation, we visited a neighbor’s house. Backwater or not, the neighbor had a phone, and graciously, she agreed to let us use it. We called the 800 number. “We’re sorry. Due to an increased amount of telephone traffic, we’re unable to take your call. Please leave your number and we’ll call you back.” We left the neighbor’s number—a French number of course—and waited a couple of hours for a call back. After too much wine and cheese—the French love their wine and cheese—and not wanting to overstay our welcome, we came home.
To this day there has been no return call. Or email.
Meanwhile, Louise ran off to Paris to shop. She stopped by an ATM machine there, hoping to retrieve our balance. She inserted our joint debit card, but retrieving our balance wasn’t an option. She pressed Cancel. The machine made satisfying mechanical noises, our card appeared in the slot, and a message appeared on the screen. “Please take your card,” it said.
Louise has long fingernails. Very little card protruded. She tried to grasp it, but her fingernails slipped and the card wouldn’t budge. “You have twenty more seconds. Please take your card.”
Twenty seconds later, the machine made some very unsatisfying mechanical noises, and the card was gone.
She went inside the bank and talked to a manager: “We’re sorry, but since we didn’t issue the card, we must send it back to the issuing bank.”
Curiouser and curiouser.
Fortunately I have a friend at Umpqua. I emailed her, we were granted online access to our account, and although crippled by the confiscated card, we could at least pay the rent. And eat.
We’re back to the first paragraph. Today, Louise visited another ATM, using her personal Umpqua debit card. She inserted the card and requested a cash withdrawal. The ATM made satisfying mechanical noises, then a message appeared on the screen. “We apologize,” it said. “Your bank has requested that we retain your card.” The screen went blank. No cash. No card. Her personal account is unrelated to our joint account, but her name appears on both of them. It would appear that Louise is an Umpqua Bank fugitive, wanted in every land.
Using the (new and improved) online interface, we can at least transfer money into our account, pay the rent, and eat. I can get cash from my Key account, but Louise is broke. Those of you who know her, know that this is akin to Armageddon. The woman loves to shop. For Louise, having no cash is like having no hands.
In twenty days, we will head for home. Will Louise survive for twenty days?
Pray for her.
No more comments from me, LL, since you are like your toy bank in that you never reply.
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I see there’s no reply from LL here. I guess you’re off her A list. 😉
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Did you notify your banks that you were going to be out of the country? Sometimes these things happen for your own protection. They sometimes assume that your card may have been hijacked and therefore the card was captured for security reasons.
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Most definitely. In writing and in person. We always do when we travel, students that we are of hard knocks. (But that, I suppose, is another post.) OTOH, they certainly are acting that way, aren’t they?
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They sure are.
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Loved the dogs! Sorry about your card. Does this mean you might “going to the dogs”?
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I really have a lot of sympathy for you guys ! This happened to me several times when I lived in France. Even with a French credit card, it would disappear leaving you without money and card. I once had to wait until opening time (2 hours) until the bank would open. My card had been confiscated for no reason : just a mistake.
I got it back but I had missed my train.
Only 3 more weeks…
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We’ve had a number of comments along these lines, from travelers like you, Mapi. Misery loves company.
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I should have advised you to get a letter of credit and to deposit it in a French Bank like BNP, Banque Générale, or Credit Agricole. That solved my problem when I was working for a French company. If you have an American Express card, you could always cash a personal check at an AMEX office. Sorry about the hassle.
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Bob, we never thought of a letter of credit. Thanks for the tip. OTOH, would it have addressed the new-interface situation? Probably not.
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What a pain in the neck, Tom and Louise. Doesn’t this stuff just drive you nuts? We had a very similar experience a few years back when we arrived in Dubrovnik while traveling for a year. It took forever to get it sorted out – and we didn’t have cell phones so we were using phone booths. Yuck! Hope that you get it worked out and enjoy your last 3 weeks. ~Terri
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As noted above, there’s misery in company, especially when the company is seasoned travelers like you guys. I suppose it’s just part of the adventure. Truth be known, we carry two or three other cards, some with European chips. They’re credit (not debit) cards, however, and incur fees, so we try not to use them.
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Good thing you only have three more weeks to go. Louise will be in panic mode. No shopping for the last three weeks! Horrible. Use those cards to get the French things you can’t leave without!
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Linda, she’s OK. I got cash with my personal card and she voraciously borrowed it. She’s shopping right now (we’re in Le Mans) as I type.
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